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Cleave's avatar

Thank you for elucidating this paper. Greatly appreciated.

Do we currently have a clear understanding of why different signaling biases result in the various subjective effects of, for example, LSD versus LSA? Or do we only know that this is the case without further insight into how and why it happens?

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In recent years I've occasionally found reports of users ingesting amounts of LSD that are just enormous in comparison to the usual dosage range- amounts measured in milligrams rather than micrograms. Some is anonymous folklore from drug forum websites, including stories about distributors being initiated with a "thumbprint" of pure powder LSD, etc. Jesse Jarnow also includes a story about a young woman well-known as an LSD distributor (complete with Federal trafficking conviction) who related a story of taking such a massive dose once. Robert Hunter had to pull himself together after ingesting an unknown but undoubtedly massive quantity of LSD.

The most verifiable report I found was that of a drug agent who was exposed to a massive amount in a raid and eventually retired on a disability claim. His story is told in the "Hallucinogens" episode of the National Geographic TV program "Drugs, Inc." https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2166771/?ref_=ttep_ep_4

The narration claims that the agent suffered "brain damage" as a result, but no specific details were added. The agent allowed himself to be filmed, and he seemed lucid and communicative during his appearance. He didn't present with an especially disordered affect, either, although it sounded like he was still grappling with some significant HPPD aftereffects. At any rate, in the stories I read, everyone survived without lasting physical impairments, however extravagant or traumatizing the effect on consciousness might have been.

My question is: how might the human brain and body metabolism possibly cope with such a megadose? Is there a ceiling on effect, from neurotransmitter saturation? How long would a >5,000 microgram LSD trip last, in terms of primary effect? Would other aspects of serotonin metabolism be affected, beyond uptake in the brain and brainstem structures?

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